Even Joe Torre And Joe Girardi Are Weighing In On NY Sports Betting

Written By Eric Ramsey on June 6, 2018
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Major League Baseball is working the angles with New York lawmakers. In recent months, the league has shuffled several of its local cast members through Albany to advocate for regulated NY sports betting.

Joe Girardi and Joe Torre were the most recent to appear. The last two managers of the New York Yankees each paid a visit to the capital over the past two weeks, urging lawmakers to adopt updated provisions proposed by their league and others.

“The game has meant so much to me and my family,” Girardi said, “and I’m here encouraging New York legislators to pass a law that basically protects the integrity of the game.” He and Torre have traded in their pinstripes for a coat and tie, both now working for MLB directly.

The pitch comes as the NY legislature works to broaden the existing sports betting language before its June 20 deadline. Under that 2013 law, activated by the recent US Supreme Court ruling, the four upstate NY casinos could soon be taking bets.

MLB contends that any revised terms should include things like integrity fees and league control over the flow of sports data. The multi-pronged approach has included on-the-record testimony from lawyers, closed-door sessions with paid lobbyists, and now visits from local NY athletes.

Lawmakers have also heard from former Knicks guard John Starks and Mets pitcher Al Leiter.

Girardi on sports betting integrity

Girardi was the Yankees catcher for four seasons, three of which ended with a World Series title. He assumed the role of manager after retiring, delivering another Yanks championship in 2009 — its 27th in history. You’ll find him providing analysis for the MLB Network these days.

As you’d expect from someone talking sports betting on MLB’s behalf, Girardi featured the word “integrity” prominently.

“I think the law is coming so I think important for New York to be out on the forefront and get something passed, again, that protects the integrity of the game — this session. I don’t think we can wait.”

His local history and his feel-good childhood baseball story make Girardi a good candidate to pinch hit for MLB lobbyists. Here’s what he said about his motivations for speaking on the topic:

It’s because I care so much about this game. It’s been a part of my life since I was five or six years old. We’d to go Cubs games with my father. We would drive up three hours, ride with him as a little boy in his car and listen to games on the radio. And then eventually, I got a chance to live my dream and to be a player for many years and also a manager. So I worry about the integrity of the game.

This is exactly the type of relatable story MLB hopes will sway the minds of lawmakers and the general public.

The leagues have not, so far, received a warm reception in any statehouse, but they do seem to be gaining traction in NY. Bills on file in each chamber follow (or at least borrow from) their blueprint.

The Democrat & Chronicle has the full Girardi interview.

Torre on the trust of fans

For all of his success in NY, Girardi probably won’t have his face bronzed and cemented in Monument Park. The team fired him last season, and most Yankees fans aren’t big Girardi fans.

His predecessor, though, is already immortalized in center field. Torre is a Hall of Famer with an impeccable career as both a player and a skipper, including four World Series titles with the Yankees. His plaque now lives alongside all-time legends like Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson.

“I’ve been in baseball almost 60 years,” Torre began. “It’s been my life. It’s very important to me and my family. The only thing I ask is that we be engaged.”

Today, Torre is one of MLB’s central figures and a key executive. He’s served as chief baseball officer since 2012, which essentially puts him in charge of all operations. When he speaks, folks tend to listen.

Torre said he’s not lobbying for any particular side, and his statements aren’t substantive from a legislative standpoint. They’re really more about perception and feelings.

Here’s his vague pitch:

I just want you to take care of our game. When you open it up to all of the people who would be involved in sports betting, there’s some potholes out there. And I want to do my part in just letting you know how I feel about the passion I have for this sport and, of course, all the fans who’ve enjoyed it for all these years.

As the overseer of playing and umpiring, Torre’s role is arguably the one most directly tied to the integrity of the game. “The fans trust us in baseball, and I’d hate to jeopardize that,” he said. “That’s too important.”

Do fans really trust baseball?

The “trust” point is an interesting one.

Fans don’t exactly distrust baseball, but it’d be hard to make the case that there’s complete trust, either. Compared to the other professional sports leagues, MLB has a pretty shaky track record when it comes to integrity.

It’s been almost 100 years since the Black Sox scandal, but the scar is very much present. In 1919, a betting syndicate tainted some of the Chicago White Sox, convincing them to throw the World Series in exchange for gambling payments. If you’ve seen Field of Dreams, you’ll recognize the name Shoeless Joe Jackson. He and seven teammates are banned for life for fixing games.

Speaking of folks who are banned from baseball…

During the Girardi interview, a reporter asked where he stood on Pete Rose, the disgraced superstar expelled for betting on games he played and managed. Three decades later, Rose’s pleas for reinstatement remain a point of controversy within the community.

“That’s something for the Hall of Fame to decide,” Girardi said. “Pete Rose was a great player, but the laws did not protect him from doing what he did. And that’s just an ex—“

“Thank you,” he was cut off by a man in a suit behind him, signaling the end of the interview.

Pete Rose and the Black Sox are not favorite topics of conversation for MLB.

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A New York native, Eric Ramsey serves as a data analyst for PlayNY. He has worked with the site and the entire network of Play-branded sites since 2017. Eric began as a reporter for Legal Sports Report before becoming the managing editor for Online Poker Report. His background is rooted in the poker world, as he formerly wrote for PokerNews and the World Poker Tour. Prior to assuming the data analyst role, Eric regularly reported on the legislative process of states to legalize sports betting. By tracking hundreds of bills across the country, by listening to hours of legislative testimony, Eric has evolved into one of the leading analysts for legal sports betting and gambling in the US. His work has been cited in a number of industry, local and national publications and referenced by scholars and policymakers.

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